1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,760 February 10th 1967, 1122, Erie County Sheriff's Department, Sundeski, Ohio, with Constable 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:19,800 Gary Butler who earlier this morning cited a UFO over the NASA installation outside of 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,800 town. 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:28,040 Yes, this is Rick Hilberg of Cleveland and Earl Neff of Cleveland interviewing from 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:35,080 ICAP. Constable Butler, could you just briefly tell us, run through the sighting and tell 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,080 us what you saw on the approximate times and any comments you might have or elaborations? 7 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:46,760 Well this officer, who I'm going to patrol, earlier part of Friday morning was going down 8 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:57,400 one of our side roads, a shank road which runs parallel with the NASA establishment. I was 9 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:06,000 going from the east to west direction and making my turn onto the main road when I observed 10 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:16,960 a bluish bright colored disc object in the southwestern direction of the county. I observed 11 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:22,320 this object for approximately five minutes before relaying the message to the Sheriff's 12 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:31,800 Department to make sure that what I did see was a true thing. When I called, when I relayed 13 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:39,920 the message to the Sheriff's Department, the State Patrol responded also. The deputy was 14 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:47,760 on Route 250 approaching the bypass when he called to this officer. I observed the object 15 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:55,480 in a stationary position approximately a mile and a half, maybe two miles away. After 16 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,280 observing it for approximately six to seven, maybe eight minutes, this object began to decline 17 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:08,360 towards the ground and disappeared behind a group of trees. At this time, I radioed to 18 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:14,880 the other officers who immediately responded to the area and I myself went to the area to 19 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:20,880 which I saw the object disappear to and after almost an hour and a half of observation, we 20 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,000 could not locate anything. You mentioned during the previous interview when you were filling out 21 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,520 our report form that you noticed some interference in your radio communications. Approximately 22 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,600 what time did this happen and what was the nature of the interference? The time, I'm uncertain 23 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,440 about, I would estimate summer around four o'clock. There was some static, I had to repeat my 24 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:51,600 transmission two or three times because the deputy at the station could not understand. Also, 25 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:59,120 there was two officers, I believe, from the Bellevue area who saw a light, a bright, a light 26 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,480 object in the sky. We stayed observed for several minutes and they said it disappeared. I don't 27 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,560 know if this was any connection at all, but it might have been a jet or something to this fact. 28 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:17,520 Constable Broadford, I'd like to ask you, did you at the distance you were away from this, 29 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:24,160 detect any sound, whatever, from the object? That's negative. There was no sound whatsoever. I 30 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:30,400 did shut off the motor to my vehicle. I had the ignition on so I could hear my radio. I heard 31 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:37,920 nothing. I shown my spotlight on the vicinity of where the disc shape object was, but the beams 32 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:44,720 of the spotlight did not reach the area of the object itself. I'd also like to ask you, Constable, 33 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:53,440 if you had any previous interest in this subject or have you read any articles or books on this 34 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,320 particular subject in the past, in other words, have you had any interest in along those lines? 35 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:06,400 I have read just a little bit of local newspapers and this and I have observed on the television 36 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:12,400 and radio, but far as being interested in it, I haven't as of yet until this point been 37 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,960 fascinated with it, you might say, or even interested in it. Unlike everybody else, I would say that 38 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:26,080 as heard this or read of first people of observation, I too thought that they were nuts in some 39 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:34,000 respects, but after seeing what I saw last night, my attitude may change. Constable Butler, could 40 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,760 you give us a brief description of the weather conditions in the vicinity at the time of the 41 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:44,880 report? If I remember correctly, I believe it was cloudy and the weather was cold. There was a slight 42 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:53,280 breeze or wind blowing out of southwest approximately 10, maybe 15 miles an hour. The atomic reactor, 43 00:04:53,280 --> 00:05:00,720 NESA, was in operation, but this reactor was in the eastern part of the county or the 44 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:07,200 establishment of NESA. Constable Butler, do you know did any of the people at NASA 45 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:15,440 have any knowledge of this object passing anywhere near the place where it might have been or not? 46 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:23,760 Well, I spotted about 342. There was a guard of NESA who went by the area about four o'clock, 47 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:31,120 five after four, he said, but this had already disappeared before that time. But as far as 48 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:39,040 anybody else seeing it, I am the only one evidently that had access to seeing this object. 49 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:49,360 You were referring, I presume, to Plumbroke, right? That's true. Was there a moon or were there stars 50 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:55,280 that night? I believe the earlier part of the evening there was a star out and there was a moon, 51 00:05:55,280 --> 00:06:01,520 but at this particular time I don't believe that there was any. Did you see any other cars passing 52 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:08,800 you at the time on the road where you were? Negative. There was nobody on the road. This was 53 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:14,480 pretty early in the morning and there was nobody on the road. Traffic was very light, if any at all. 54 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:22,640 Did you notice any physical effects afterward, any yellow effects, any burning of the eyes or 55 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,280 burning of any part of it, exposed section of skin or headache or anything of this nature 56 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:37,200 after looking at this object? No, there was no physical reaction towards this except 57 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:43,600 after looking at the object, there were same effects as you might see at when the camera, 58 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:50,880 flash bulb, goes off in front of your eyes. I'd like very much to thank you for your fine 59 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,680 cooperation, Constable Butler, and I know Mr. Hilberg is very appreciative. Are there any other 60 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,840 questions you'd like to ask Rick? No, not at this time.